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<rss version="2.0" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"><channel><title>An Empirical Analysis of Traceability in the Monero Blockchain · HackerPapers discussions</title><link>https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1704.04299/</link><description>Collected HN comments and submissions linking this paper.</description><language>en</language><lastBuildDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2026 11:16:22 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1704.04299/feed.xml" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><item><title>An Empirical Analysis of Traceability in the Monero Blockchain — mentioned by simonh</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33233716</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:1704.04299:33233716</guid><pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2022 14:10:08 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Don&amp;#x27;t tell the crypto Bruhs about the several vulnerabilities already found in the Monero anonnymisation system. https://arxiv.org/pdf/1704.04299/ The problem is also one of credibility, Bitcoin was supposed to be private and breaching privacy has proved to be pretty trivial. Encryption is hard, but maintaining anonymity is much harder.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1704.04299/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CR</category></item><item><title>An Empirical Analysis of Traceability in the Monero Blockchain — mentioned by ianmiers</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25338981</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:1704.04299:25338981</guid><pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2020 23:05:27 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Crypto tribalism aside, you got two technical points fundamentally wrong about the cryptography: 1) snarks are fast now. It takes 3 seconds on a pixel phone for Zcash. 2)The decoy based approaches Monero uses are subject to all kinds of passive and active attacks. Both in practice ( https://arxiv.org/pdf/1704.04299/) and just fundamentally: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9s3EbSKDA3o. There are ways to mitigate some of these problems to a degree. This is why you hear Monero people talk about coin control and churning (both of which can make you stand out in other ways). But the fact that they…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1704.04299/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CR</category></item><item><title>An Empirical Analysis of Traceability in the Monero Blockchain — mentioned by brian_cloutier</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24938169</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:1704.04299:24938169</guid><pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2020 01:27:33 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;If you give me a link I&amp;#x27;m happy to &amp;quot;read more&amp;quot; but you&amp;#x27;re going to have to give me a link or make an argument, I have no interest in going searching for something so likely to be wrong. Here is an active deanonymization attack [1]: &amp;gt; We show how an attacker can take advantage of Monero’s Bulletproof protocol, which reduces transaction fees, to flood the network with his own transactions and, consequently, remove mixins from transaction inputs. Assuming an attack timeframe of 12 months, our findings show that an attacker can trace up to 47.63% of the transaction inputs at a cost of just…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1704.04299/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CR</category></item><item><title>An Empirical Analysis of Traceability in the Monero Blockchain — mentioned by R0b0t1</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23861055</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:1704.04299:23861055</guid><pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2020 17:06:39 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgtF7psIKWg&amp;amp;feature=youtu.be... https://tokyo2018.scalingbitcoin.org/transcript/tokyo2018/ho... https://arxiv.org/pdf/1704.04299/ Basically, the chaff transactions go to/from wallets actually owned by people. If you analyze enough of the chaff transactions, especially when the XMR that made them up is respent, you can deanonmyize users. This is why people recommend you do not reuse wallets often but that still does not solve the problem. Zcash I think is secure, or is per most analyses I&amp;#x27;ve read.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1704.04299/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CR</category></item><item><title>An Empirical Analysis of Traceability in the Monero Blockchain — mentioned by R0b0t1</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23861037</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:1704.04299:23861037</guid><pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2020 17:05:36 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgtF7psIKWg&amp;amp;feature=youtu.be... https://tokyo2018.scalingbitcoin.org/transcript/tokyo2018/ho... https://arxiv.org/pdf/1704.04299/ Basically, the chaff transactions go to/from wallets actually owned by people. If you analyze enough of the chaff transactions, especially when the XMR that made them up is respent, you can deanonmyize users. This is why people recommend you do not reuse wallets often but that still does not solve the problem. Zcash I think is secure, or is per most analyses I&amp;#x27;ve read.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1704.04299/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CR</category></item><item><title>An Empirical Analysis of Traceability in the Monero Blockchain — mentioned by zik</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18836153</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:1704.04299:18836153</guid><pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2019 02:41:13 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#x27;s thought to be less susceptible to tracability analysis than Monero. [1] https://arxiv.org/pdf/1704.04299/ [2] https://eprint.iacr.org/2017/338.pdf&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1704.04299/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CR</category></item><item><title>An Empirical Analysis of Traceability in the Monero Blockchain — mentioned by oarsinsync</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18096573</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:1704.04299:18096573</guid><pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2018 20:01:45 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; A whole world currency that is potentially immune to inflation and government manipulation. You said potentially, so I’ll give you this one. &amp;gt; No currency conversion fees. This is a function of the market, not the underlying instruments. It’s also not true of most crypto markets, and I’m not confusing the spread with fees at exchanges. &amp;gt; The ability to send funds to anyone with no middle man and no fee (besides the miners). No fee (besides the miners) isn’t much different to no fee (except this fee). It’s still a fee, and in the case of Bitcoin, the fee has potential to be prohibitive (and…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1704.04299/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CR</category></item><item><title>An Empirical Analysis of Traceability in the Monero Blockchain — HN submission</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16701250</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:submission:1704.04299:16701250</guid><pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2018 19:51:07 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;An Empirical Analysis of Traceability in the Monero Blockchain&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;1 point; 0 discussion replies on HN. &lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1704.04299/"&gt;Paper and source history&lt;/a&gt;. A submission is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CR</category></item><item><title>An Empirical Analysis of Traceability in the Monero Blockchain — mentioned by weber111</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16687418</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:1704.04299:16687418</guid><pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2018 11:53:38 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;https://arxiv.org/pdf/1704.04299/&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1704.04299/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CR</category></item><item><title>An Empirical Analysis of Traceability in the Monero Blockchain — mentioned by DINKDINK</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16495745</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:1704.04299:16495745</guid><pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2018 20:11:45 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt;To-date there is no public research on fundamental aspect of Monero What about these papers? &amp;quot;An Empirical Analysis of Linkability in the Monero Blockchain&amp;quot; - https://arxiv.org/abs/1704.04299 &amp;quot;A Traceability Analysis of Monero’s Blockchain&amp;quot; - https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-319-66399-9_... https://youtu.be/qpn9ICem5wk?t=704&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1704.04299/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. 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