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<rss version="2.0" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"><channel><title>Malware Guard Extension: Using SGX to Conceal Cache Attacks · HackerPapers discussions</title><link>https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1702.08719/</link><description>Collected HN comments and submissions linking this paper.</description><language>en</language><lastBuildDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2026 11:16:22 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1702.08719/feed.xml" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><item><title>Malware Guard Extension: Using SGX to Conceal Cache Attacks — mentioned by ChrisLomont</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31751472</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:1702.08719:31751472</guid><pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2022 11:28:41 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; Constant time&amp;quot; in cryptography means that there is no information flow from secrets to timings If &amp;quot;constant time&amp;quot; cryptography were achievable don&amp;#x27;t you think we&amp;#x27;d have it and there&amp;#x27;d be no more timing attacks breaking encryption schemes? &amp;quot;Constant time&amp;quot; cryptography is a mathematical abstraction, a goal, like &amp;quot;unbreakable cipher&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;unbreakable hash&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;frictionless surface.&amp;quot; They don&amp;#x27;t occur in practice. This article breaks itself breaks a &amp;quot;constant time&amp;quot; cryptography with a timing attack. The problem is, as this paper demonstrates (along with many others) coding up a constant time…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1702.08719/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CR</category></item><item><title>Malware Guard Extension: Using SGX to Conceal Cache Attacks — mentioned by Confiks</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16989331</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:1702.08719:16989331</guid><pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2018 19:56:22 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;quot;Confidential computing&amp;quot; might seem to refer to homomorphic encryption, but has nothing to do with it in its usage here. After searching around a bit, I suspect that Microsoft Azure first used it in 2017 to refer to code running within a trusted enclave. It looks to me that while Asylo is agnostic about the specific TEE used, it is primarily targeted at Intel SGX [1]. Instead of having to trust Google to run your code correctly and not read your data, you&amp;#x27;d have to trust Intel to manufacture a secure enclave and essentially bake in a private key that cannot be read. You could use the public…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1702.08719/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CR</category></item><item><title>Malware Guard Extension: Using SGX to Conceal Cache Attacks — mentioned by j_s</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13997355</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:1702.08719:13997355</guid><pubDate>Thu, 30 Mar 2017 17:41:54 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Yes it was specifically called out in someone&amp;#x27;s tweet I&amp;#x27;m trying to find but I believe this was mentioned in the paper. Edit: My mix-up on the paper! Malware Guard Extension: Using SGX to Conceal Cache Attacks (Extended Version) | https://arxiv.org/pdf/1702.08719.pdf (2017) Recently, Intel introduced an instruction set extension called CAT (cache allocation technology) [51]. With Intel CAT it is possible to restrict CPU cores to one of the slices of the last-level cache and even to pin cache lines. Liu et al. [83] proposed a system that uses CAT to protect general purpose software and…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1702.08719/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CR</category></item><item><title>Malware Guard Extension: Using SGX to Conceal Cache Attacks — mentioned by wfn</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13900887</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:1702.08719:13900887</guid><pubDate>Sat, 18 Mar 2017 11:57:44 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; seeing cracks that allows a virtualised system to break out to the is scary Hate to break this to you, but it&amp;#x27;s been shown time and time again that due to how caching and CPU pipelining works in modern processors, any &amp;quot;isolation&amp;quot; including full-on VM which is not &amp;quot;physical isolation&amp;quot; is leaky: https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/e544/00824814fed2ef52bb8415... (overview of attacks) Here is a particularly nice paper (proper methodology, well-explained intro, etc.) showing one example (a more or less regular cache timing attack, but with actual private info extraction from host, etc.)…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1702.08719/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CR</category></item><item><title>Malware Guard Extension: Using SGX to Conceal Cache Attacks — HN submission</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13847809</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:submission:1702.08719:13847809</guid><pubDate>Sat, 11 Mar 2017 23:08:37 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Malware Guard Extension: Using SGX to Conceal Cache Attacks&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;1 point; 0 discussion replies on HN. &lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1702.08719/"&gt;Paper and source history&lt;/a&gt;. A submission is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CR</category></item><item><title>Malware Guard Extension: Using SGX to Conceal Cache Attacks — HN submission</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13805478</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:submission:1702.08719:13805478</guid><pubDate>Mon, 06 Mar 2017 19:49:31 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Malware Guard Extension: Using SGX to Conceal Cache Attacks&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;2 points; 0 discussion replies on HN. &lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1702.08719/"&gt;Paper and source history&lt;/a&gt;. A submission is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CR</category></item></channel></rss>
