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<rss version="2.0" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"><channel><title>Training Neural Networks Without Gradients: A Scalable ADMM Approach · HackerPapers discussions</title><link>https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1605.02026/</link><description>Collected HN comments and submissions linking this paper.</description><language>en</language><lastBuildDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2026 11:16:22 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1605.02026/feed.xml" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><item><title>Training Neural Networks Without Gradients: A Scalable ADMM Approach — mentioned by thesz</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26174038</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:1605.02026:26174038</guid><pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2021 00:54:13 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;I beg to disagree. [1] provides one with a whole-data-set training method (ADMM, one of such methods). Page 8 contains figure 2(b) - accuracy of training after specified amount of time. Note that ADMM start where stochastic gradient stops. [1] https://arxiv.org/pdf/1605.02026.pdf At [2] I tried to apply logistic regression trained using reweighted least squares algorithm on the same Higgs boson data set. I&amp;#x27;ve got the same accuracy (64%) as mentioned in the ADMM paper with much less number of coefficients - basically, just the size of input vector + 1 instead of 300 such rows of coefficients…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1605.02026/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.LG</category></item><item><title>Training Neural Networks Without Gradients: A Scalable ADMM Approach — mentioned by thesz</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17177640</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:1605.02026:17177640</guid><pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2018 09:24:27 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt;This stochasticity seems important to achieving good results. No, it is not and may be counter resultive, so to say. https://arxiv.org/pdf/1605.02026.pdf - page 8, figure 2(b). SGD optimized neural networks stops learning at the accuracy at which whole-dataset methods start! Also please note that the figure I pointed to is about high energy particles analysis. SGD trained NN cannot even distinguish particles with good precision, let alone discover physics.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1605.02026/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.LG</category></item></channel></rss>
