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arXiv:1604.07422quant-ph

Quantum theory cannot consistently describe the use of itself

Daniela Frauchiger, Renato Renner

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Abstract

Quantum theory provides an extremely accurate description of fundamental processes in physics. It thus seems likely that the theory is applicable beyond the, mostly microscopic, domain in which it has been tested experimentally. Here we propose a Gedankenexperiment to investigate the question whether quantum theory can, in principle, have universal validity. The idea is that, if the answer was yes, it must be possible to employ quantum theory to model complex systems that include agents who are themselves using quantum theory. Analysing the experiment under this presumption, we find that one agent, upon observing a particular measurement outcome, must conclude that another agent has predicted the opposite outcome with certainty. The agents' conclusions, although all derived within quantum theory, are thus inconsistent. This indicates that quantum theory cannot be extrapolated to complex systems, at least not in a straightforward manner.

arXiv comments
11 + 8 pages, 4 figures; substantially rewritten, including change of title; close to published version
Journal reference
Nature Communications 9, 3711 (2018)
DOI
doi:10.1038/s41467-018-05739-8
Subjects
quant-phQuantum Physics

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    • This write up not only oversimplifies, but it totally neglects one of the more interesting motivations of the original paper [1]. The authors are probing whether or not quantum mechanics is consistent with a single-world interpretation---that is, whether or not there is a unique…

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