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<rss version="2.0" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"><channel><title>Why Johnny Still, Still Can't Encrypt: Evaluating the Usability of a Modern PGP Client · HackerPapers discussions</title><link>https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1510.08555/</link><description>Collected HN comments and submissions linking this paper.</description><language>en</language><lastBuildDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2026 11:16:22 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1510.08555/feed.xml" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><item><title>Why Johnny Still, Still Can't Encrypt: Evaluating the Usability of a Modern PGP Client — mentioned by plopilop</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40000146</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:1510.08555:40000146</guid><pubDate>Thu, 11 Apr 2024 09:21:32 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Related research: * Why Johnny can&amp;#x27;t encrypt (1995): https://people.eecs.berkeley.edu/~tygar/papers/Why_Johnny_Ca... * Why Johnny still can&amp;#x27;t encrypt (2006): https://cups.cs.cmu.edu/soups/2006/posters/sheng-poster_abst... * Why Johnny still, still can&amp;#x27;t encrypt (2016): https://arxiv.org/pdf/1510.08555.pdf At this point I really wonder if e-mail is the best solution for encrypted asynchronous communication. E2E systems like Signal or Whatsapp offer a very functional, intuitive way to protect your texts.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1510.08555/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CR</category></item><item><title>Why Johnny Still, Still Can't Encrypt: Evaluating the Usability of a Modern PGP Client — mentioned by nonrandomstring</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39573628</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:1510.08555:39573628</guid><pubDate>Sat, 02 Mar 2024 16:34:16 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Finally a protocol layer that drags email screaming and kicking into the 21st century despite 40 years of unusable cryptography [0]? [0] (Why Johnny Still, Still Can&amp;#x27;t Encrypt) https://arxiv.org/pdf/1510.08555.pdf&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1510.08555/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CR</category></item><item><title>Why Johnny Still, Still Can't Encrypt: Evaluating the Usability of a Modern PGP Client — mentioned by webmaven</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29750091</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:1510.08555:29750091</guid><pubDate>Fri, 31 Dec 2021 17:18:11 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; I&amp;#x27;m using branle (https://branle.fiatjaf.com/) as my client and you can follow me with my pubkey: 22e804d26ed16b68db5259e78449e96dab5d464c8f470bda3eb1a70467f2c793. It isn&amp;#x27;t too hard to improve upon the status quo in various ways when you just drop a key usability requirement (in this case, the need for human-memorable &amp;#x27;handles&amp;#x27;). It is worth reading &amp;#x27;Why Johnny Can&amp;#x27;t Encrypt&amp;#x27; (1999) [0], &amp;#x27;Why Johnny Still Can&amp;#x27;t Encrypt&amp;#x27; (2011) [1], and &amp;#x27;Why Johnny Still, Still Can&amp;#x27;t Encrypt&amp;#x27; (2015) [2]. [0] https://www.usenix.org/legacy/events/sec99/full_papers/whitt... [1]…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1510.08555/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CR</category></item><item><title>Why Johnny Still, Still Can't Encrypt: Evaluating the Usability of a Modern PGP Client — mentioned by gcr</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29120400</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:1510.08555:29120400</guid><pubDate>Fri, 05 Nov 2021 15:13:16 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;See &amp;quot;Why Johnny Can&amp;#x27;t Encrypt&amp;quot;, 2005: http://people.eecs.berkeley.edu/~tygar/papers/Why_Johnny_Can... Also see &amp;quot;Why Johnny Still Can&amp;#x27;t Encrypt&amp;quot;, 2015: https://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.22... Also see &amp;quot;Why Johnny Still, Still Can&amp;#x27;t Encrypt&amp;quot;, 2016: https://arxiv.org/abs/1510.08555&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1510.08555/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CR</category></item><item><title>Why Johnny Still, Still Can't Encrypt: Evaluating the Usability of a Modern PGP Client — mentioned by dane-pgp</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22102251</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:1510.08555:22102251</guid><pubDate>Mon, 20 Jan 2020 21:32:59 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;As an indication of the effect that the original 1999 paper has had on security research, and its legacy, let me also mention the paper &amp;quot;Why Johnny Still Can’t Encrypt&amp;quot; [1] from 2006, and the paper &amp;quot;Why Johnny Still, Still Can&amp;#x27;t Encrypt&amp;quot; [2] from 2015. Perhaps in a few more years Johnny will finally be able to encrypt using email software that supports the emerging Autocrypt standard. [3] [1] http://cups.cs.cmu.edu/soups/2006/posters/sheng-poster_abstr... [2] https://arxiv.org/abs/1510.08555 [3] https://autocrypt.org/&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1510.08555/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CR</category></item><item><title>Why Johnny Still, Still Can't Encrypt: Evaluating the Usability of a Modern PGP Client — mentioned by jamieweb</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18471451</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:1510.08555:18471451</guid><pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2018 19:48:58 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;This is a famous one from 1999 - &amp;quot;Why Johnny Can&amp;#x27;t Encrypt&amp;quot; [1] There&amp;#x27;s a couple of follow-ups too, such as &amp;quot;Why Johnny Still Can&amp;#x27;t Encrypt&amp;quot; [2], and &amp;quot;Why Johnny Still, Still Can&amp;#x27;t Encrypt&amp;quot; [3]. [1] https://people.eecs.berkeley.edu/~tygar/papers/Why_Johnny_Ca... [2] https://cups.cs.cmu.edu/soups/2006/posters/sheng-poster_abst... [3] https://arxiv.org/abs/1510.08555&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1510.08555/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CR</category></item><item><title>Why Johnny Still, Still Can't Encrypt: Evaluating the Usability of a Modern PGP Client — mentioned by afarrell</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14409180</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:1510.08555:14409180</guid><pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2017 11:30:50 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Put money toward an organization that will hire full-time UX designers and engineers who can make open-source encryption usable by the masses. Why Johnny Why Johnny Still, Still can&amp;#x27;t encypt [2015] https://arxiv.org/abs/1510.08555&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1510.08555/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CR</category></item><item><title>Why Johnny Still, Still Can't Encrypt: Evaluating the Usability of a Modern PGP Client — HN submission</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10525008</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:submission:1510.08555:10525008</guid><pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2015 15:25:55 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Why Johnny Still Can&amp;#x27;t Encrypt: Evaluating the Usability of a Modern PGP Client&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;259 points; 160 discussion replies on HN. &lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1510.08555/"&gt;Paper and source history&lt;/a&gt;. A submission is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CR</category></item><item><title>Why Johnny Still, Still Can't Encrypt: Evaluating the Usability of a Modern PGP Client — HN submission</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10518448</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:submission:1510.08555:10518448</guid><pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2015 09:00:07 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Why Johnny Can’t Encrypt: Evaluating the Usability of a Modern PGP Client [pdf]&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;2 points; 0 discussion replies on HN. &lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1510.08555/"&gt;Paper and source history&lt;/a&gt;. A submission is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CR</category></item><item><title>Why Johnny Still, Still Can't Encrypt: Evaluating the Usability of a Modern PGP Client — HN submission</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10510213</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:submission:1510.08555:10510213</guid><pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2015 22:17:50 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Evaluating the Usability of a Modern PGP Client [pdf]&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;2 points; 1 discussion reply on HN. &lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1510.08555/"&gt;Paper and source history&lt;/a&gt;. A submission is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CR</category></item><item><title>Why Johnny Still, Still Can't Encrypt: Evaluating the Usability of a Modern PGP Client — HN submission</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10491386</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:submission:1510.08555:10491386</guid><pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2015 12:00:21 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Why Johnny Still Can&amp;#x27;t Encrypt: Evaluating the Usability of a Modern PGP Client&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;3 points; 0 discussion replies on HN. &lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1510.08555/"&gt;Paper and source history&lt;/a&gt;. A submission is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CR</category></item></channel></rss>
