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<rss version="2.0" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"><channel><title>Effective Approaches to Attention-based Neural Machine Translation · HackerPapers discussions</title><link>https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1508.04025/</link><description>Collected HN comments and submissions linking this paper.</description><language>en</language><lastBuildDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2026 11:16:22 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1508.04025/feed.xml" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><item><title>Effective Approaches to Attention-based Neural Machine Translation — mentioned by MontyCarloHall</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46536299</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:1508.04025:46536299</guid><pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2026 02:13:42 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;The confusing thing about attention in this article (and the famous &amp;quot;Attention is all you need&amp;quot; paper it&amp;#x27;s derived from) is the heavy focus on self-attention. In self-attention, Q/K/V are all derived from the same input tokens, so it&amp;#x27;s confusing to distinguish their respective purposes. I find attention much easier to understand in the original attention paper [0], which focuses on cross-attention for machine translation. In translation, the input sentence to be translated is tokenized into vectors {x_1...x_n}. The translated sentence is autoregressively generated into tokens {y_1...y_m}. To…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1508.04025/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CL</category></item><item><title>Effective Approaches to Attention-based Neural Machine Translation — mentioned by lobstersammich</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34931011</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:1508.04025:34931011</guid><pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2023 22:25:44 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;I think they mean Transformers in the Vaswani et al &amp;#x27;Attention is all you need&amp;#x27; paper, not Generative Pretrained Transformers, specifically? Paper link below: https://proceedings.neurips.cc/paper/2017/file/3f5ee243547de... For some papers on attention mechanisms from before the 2017 &amp;#x27;Attention is all you need&amp;#x27; paper, check out that paper&amp;#x27;s references. Chris Manning&amp;#x27;s 2015 paper covers attention mechanisms. And so do a few other researchers from that mid-2010s time period: [21] Minh-Thang Luong, Hieu Pham, and Christopher D Manning. Effective approaches to attention based neural machine…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1508.04025/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CL</category></item></channel></rss>
