https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1505.03118/Collected HN comments and submissions linking this paper.enMon, 02 Nov 2026 11:16:22 GMThttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28780602urn:hackerpapers:mention:1505.03118:28780602Thu, 07 Oct 2021 01:18:31 GMT<p>&gt; 6. Causation does not imply correlation: https://arxiv.org/abs/1505.03118 And in the paper, from the abstract, &gt; We demonstrate that the Faithfulness property that is assumed in much causal analysis is robustly violated for a large class of systems... In preliminaries, &gt; The Faithfulness assumption is that no conditional correlation among the variables is zero unless it is necessarily so given the Markov property. So probably a more accurate laymam description would be &quot;not all causations are observable as a statistical correlation relationship&quot;.</p><p><a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1505.03118/">Paper and discussion history</a>. A mention is not an endorsement.</p>stat.ME