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<rss version="2.0" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"><channel><title>Evolutionary instability of Zero Determinant strategies demonstrates that winning isn't everything · HackerPapers discussions</title><link>https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1208.2666/</link><description>Collected HN comments and submissions linking this paper.</description><language>en</language><lastBuildDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2026 11:16:22 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1208.2666/feed.xml" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><item><title>Evolutionary instability of Zero Determinant strategies demonstrates that winning isn't everything — HN submission</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11051953</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:submission:1208.2666:11051953</guid><pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2016 06:41:31 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Instability Zero Determinant [games shows] that winning isn&amp;#x27;t [all] (2012)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;1 point; 0 discussion replies on HN. &lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1208.2666/"&gt;Paper and source history&lt;/a&gt;. A submission is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>q-bio.PE</category></item><item><title>Evolutionary instability of Zero Determinant strategies demonstrates that winning isn't everything — mentioned by hsitz</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6141331</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:1208.2666:6141331</guid><pubDate>Thu, 01 Aug 2013 16:17:50 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;The recent Adami/Hintze paper that is topic of this article is itself the paper that shows that the ZD strategy is not evolutionarily stable. The May 2012 Press/Dyson paper was what caused people to question what had been thought settled for 30 years, and Adami/Hintze paper pointed out mistakes/limitations of Press/Dyson&amp;#x27;s conclusion. Before Adami/Hintze paper is was not clear that ZD strategy &amp;quot;did not work out so well&amp;quot;. You can download the Adami/Hintze paper here: http://arxiv.org/abs/1208.2666&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1208.2666/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>q-bio.PE</category></item><item><title>Evolutionary instability of Zero Determinant strategies demonstrates that winning isn't everything — mentioned by ced</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4395116</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:1208.2666:4395116</guid><pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2012 04:49:14 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#x27;s inspiring to note that Bill Press is 64 years old, and Freeman Dyson is 88! Here&amp;#x27;s a more technical explanation, gleaned from http://arxiv.org/abs/1208.2666. Each prisoner dilemma round has four possible outcomes: CC, CD, DC and DD (C=Cooperate,D=Defect). We study probabilistic strategies which depend only on the previous round, so for instance, P(player 1 plays C at round i+1|CD was played at round i)=0.3. From the paper: Such games can be described by a Markov process defined by the four probabilities that characterize each of the two player’s strategies [9] (because this is an…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1208.2666/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>q-bio.PE</category></item><item><title>Evolutionary instability of Zero Determinant strategies demonstrates that winning isn't everything — mentioned by forrestthewoods</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4395106</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:1208.2666:4395106</guid><pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2012 04:44:32 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;This is roughly the 5th article on a &amp;quot;Revolution in Game Theory&amp;quot; that I&amp;#x27;ve seen and not a single one of them has successfully described what the so called revolutionary strategy is. Here is a direct link to a PDF of a paper defining the Zero Determinant Strategy. http://arxiv.org/pdf/1208.2666v1.pdf I don&amp;#x27;t really understand it. Neither do journalists it seems. Can someone explain?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1208.2666/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>q-bio.PE</category></item></channel></rss>
