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<rss version="2.0" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"><channel><title>There are no particles, there are only fields · HackerPapers discussions</title><link>https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1204.4616/</link><description>Collected HN comments and submissions linking this paper.</description><language>en</language><lastBuildDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2026 11:16:22 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1204.4616/feed.xml" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><item><title>There are no particles, there are only fields — HN submission</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49068348</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:submission:1204.4616:49068348</guid><pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2026 12:00:14 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;There are no particles, there are only fields (2012)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;4 points; 0 discussion replies on HN. &lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1204.4616/"&gt;Paper and source history&lt;/a&gt;. A submission is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>physics.hist-ph</category></item><item><title>There are no particles, there are only fields — mentioned by antonvs</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48699069</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:1204.4616:48699069</guid><pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2026 15:25:26 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; if you&amp;#x27;re looking for the short list of simplest things, the number of types of fields there are is probably what you&amp;#x27;re looking for Definitely. It&amp;#x27;s rather strange that the OP article doesn&amp;#x27;t even mention the word &amp;quot;field&amp;quot;. It seems that people in general have a hard time letting go of the idea of particles as fundamental. A good overview of this is &amp;quot;There are no particles, there are only fields&amp;quot; (https://arxiv.org/abs/1204.4616) by physics prof Art Hobson. Fields collapse the zoo described in the article significantly, because particles and antiparticles arise from the same field, and…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1204.4616/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>physics.hist-ph</category></item><item><title>There are no particles, there are only fields — mentioned by antonvs</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47076246</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:1204.4616:47076246</guid><pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2026 17:16:22 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Yes, but the issue is that they don&amp;#x27;t have identity. The idea of assigning unique identifiers to particles is doomed because, basically, &amp;quot;there are no particles, there are only fields&amp;quot; (https://arxiv.org/abs/1204.4616). Particles are how quantized fields present themselves when probed by localized interactions. In general, they&amp;#x27;re also observer-dependent. The idea of assigning an &amp;quot;ID&amp;quot; to an object reflects a macro-level notion of re-identifiable objects persisting through time. But at the quantum level, that kind of classical individuality - object identity - doesn&amp;#x27;t exist.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1204.4616/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>physics.hist-ph</category></item><item><title>There are no particles, there are only fields — mentioned by exe34</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42004631</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:1204.4616:42004631</guid><pubDate>Thu, 31 Oct 2024 08:40:47 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;it&amp;#x27;s important to realise that particles are an artefact of living in a monkey sized body. at the basic level, the equations are useful if they match observations, not if they make sense intuitively. https://arxiv.org/abs/1204.4616&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1204.4616/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>physics.hist-ph</category></item><item><title>There are no particles, there are only fields — mentioned by amai</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41618692</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:1204.4616:41618692</guid><pubDate>Sun, 22 Sep 2024 17:57:29 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;See also Hobson (2012): There are no particles, there are only fields https://arxiv.org/abs/1204.4616&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1204.4616/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>physics.hist-ph</category></item><item><title>There are no particles, there are only fields — HN submission</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40744235</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:submission:1204.4616:40744235</guid><pubDate>Thu, 20 Jun 2024 22:42:03 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;There are no particles, there are only fields (2012)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;36 points; 35 discussion replies on HN. &lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1204.4616/"&gt;Paper and source history&lt;/a&gt;. A submission is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>physics.hist-ph</category></item><item><title>There are no particles, there are only fields — mentioned by lisper</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31991981</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:1204.4616:31991981</guid><pubDate>Tue, 05 Jul 2022 18:35:01 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; I thought in q field theory there is on a fundamentally level no particle. They are artificial excite state in a field. That is correct. &amp;quot;Particle&amp;quot; is another one of those &amp;quot;white lies.&amp;quot; https://arxiv.org/abs/1204.4616&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1204.4616/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>physics.hist-ph</category></item><item><title>There are no particles, there are only fields — mentioned by lisper</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25307098</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:1204.4616:25307098</guid><pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2020 20:09:13 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Just about any modern book on QM interpretation will tell you this, though not in so many words. (They won&amp;#x27;t necessarily endorse this point of view, but they will tell you about it.) Here is my take on it: http://www.flownet.com/ron/QM.pdf (Or the movie version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEaecUuEqfc ) (These are now a wee bit dated, but still defensible.) For something written by an actual physicist I recommend anything by Tim Maudlin (he&amp;#x27;s a Bohmian, but his pedagogy is without peer) or David Z. Alberts, &amp;quot;Quantum Mechanics and Experience.&amp;quot; UPDATE: There&amp;#x27;s also…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1204.4616/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>physics.hist-ph</category></item><item><title>There are no particles, there are only fields — mentioned by lisper</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20494148</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:1204.4616:20494148</guid><pubDate>Sun, 21 Jul 2019 22:45:41 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; We decide to have a theory about particles. I would say that&amp;#x27;s exactly where Bohm runs off the rails. The fact of the matter is that quantum systems are not particles. They are waves [1]. They can sometimes bunch up into very small spaces and behave to a very good approximation as if they were particles, but they aren&amp;#x27;t. If you insist that your theory talk about particles, then Bohm is a not-entirely-unreasonable place to end up. But that&amp;#x27;s kind of like saying that if you insist that your theory tell you how many angels can dance on the head of a pin that 42 is a not-entirely-unreasonable…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1204.4616/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>physics.hist-ph</category></item><item><title>There are no particles, there are only fields — mentioned by lisper</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20360081</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:1204.4616:20360081</guid><pubDate>Fri, 05 Jul 2019 05:36:22 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; Wasn&amp;#x27;t it a famous physicist who said &amp;quot;If you think you understand Quantum Mechanics then you don&amp;#x27;t understand Quantum Mechanics&amp;quot;? No. That&amp;#x27;s an apocryphal quote. Richard Feynman said in 1965, &amp;quot; I think I can safely say that nobody understands quantum mechanics.&amp;quot; It turns out it wasn&amp;#x27;t true even when Feynman said it, and it&amp;#x27;s certainly not true today. Feynman&amp;#x27;s problem is that he was committed to the idea that particles are real. They aren&amp;#x27;t [1]. There are a lot of arguments over the proper interpretation of QM but it turns out that when you get to the bottom of things they are all saying…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1204.4616/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>physics.hist-ph</category></item><item><title>There are no particles, there are only fields — mentioned by soveran</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18199231</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:1204.4616:18199231</guid><pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2018 04:33:19 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;All the paradoxes disappear if we use Quantum Field Theory instead of Quantum Mechanics. I would really like someone with deep knowledge on Quantum Theory to explain if something is wrong with a theory that otherwise makes a lot of sense to me. A good read on the topic is the paper &amp;quot;There are no particles, there are only fields&amp;quot; — https://arxiv.org/pdf/1204.4616.pdf&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1204.4616/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>physics.hist-ph</category></item><item><title>There are no particles, there are only fields — mentioned by antonvs</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15692480</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:1204.4616:15692480</guid><pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2017 03:50:03 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; Personally I think the concept of &amp;quot;particle&amp;quot; needs to go away completely. For those who haven&amp;#x27;t already seen it, &amp;quot;There are no particles, there are only fields&amp;quot; is a good paper about this: https://arxiv.org/abs/1204.4616&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1204.4616/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>physics.hist-ph</category></item><item><title>There are no particles, there are only fields — mentioned by musgravepeter</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12444134</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:1204.4616:12444134</guid><pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2016 15:23:27 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Together with &amp;quot;There are no particles, only fields&amp;quot; (https://arxiv.org/abs/1204.4616) at the top of my web reading list.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1204.4616/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>physics.hist-ph</category></item><item><title>There are no particles, there are only fields — HN submission</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12377393</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:submission:1204.4616:12377393</guid><pubDate>Sun, 28 Aug 2016 17:25:50 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;There are no particles, there are only fields (2012)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;294 points; 199 discussion replies on HN. &lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1204.4616/"&gt;Paper and source history&lt;/a&gt;. A submission is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>physics.hist-ph</category></item><item><title>There are no particles, there are only fields — mentioned by T-A</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10103330</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:1204.4616:10103330</guid><pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2015 18:54:40 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;http://arxiv.org/abs/1204.4616 :)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1204.4616/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>physics.hist-ph</category></item></channel></rss>
