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<rss version="2.0" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"><channel><title>Equivalence of the Random Oracle Model and the Ideal Cipher Model, Revisited · HackerPapers discussions</title><link>https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1011.1264/</link><description>Collected HN comments and submissions linking this paper.</description><language>en</language><lastBuildDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2026 11:16:22 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1011.1264/feed.xml" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><item><title>Equivalence of the Random Oracle Model and the Ideal Cipher Model, Revisited — mentioned by davidcash</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3726033</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:1011.1264:3726033</guid><pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2012 20:30:31 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;A better interpretation of that paper is that it is giving an upper [edit: upper bound] on how inequivalent the models are. Also, that paper was subsequently shown to be fatally flawed. http://arxiv.org/abs/1011.1264 Anyway, yeah, a theoretical diversion.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1011.1264/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CR</category></item><item><title>Equivalence of the Random Oracle Model and the Ideal Cipher Model, Revisited — mentioned by pbsd</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3726009</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:1011.1264:3726009</guid><pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2012 20:25:46 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;The two models are equivalent, in fact: http://eprint.iacr.org/2008/246 This of course says nothing about how to go about building an actual cipher/hash that withstands all kinds of cryptanalysis. Edit: apparently not so clear, I&amp;#x27;m told: http://arxiv.org/abs/1011.1264&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/1011.1264/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>cs.CR</category></item></channel></rss>
