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<rss version="2.0" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"><channel><title>A formal proof of the Born rule from decision-theoretic assumptions · HackerPapers discussions</title><link>https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/0906.2718/</link><description>Collected HN comments and submissions linking this paper.</description><language>en</language><lastBuildDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2026 11:16:22 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/0906.2718/feed.xml" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><item><title>A formal proof of the Born rule from decision-theoretic assumptions — mentioned by FeepingCreature</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25683456</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:0906.2718:25683456</guid><pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2021 10:59:19 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;I believe in Many-Worlds, the update step falls out of decoherence &amp;quot;for free.&amp;quot; Because you are also in superposition after the measurement, the &amp;quot;you have measured 1&amp;quot; part of your wavefunction of course measures amplitude 1. That doesn&amp;#x27;t give you the Born rule though - I believe there&amp;#x27;s some attempts to get it out of game theory [1], where they show that given sufficiently long timespans, &amp;quot;almost every&amp;quot; worldline has a history with quantum measurements whose distribution matches the Born probabilities. [1] https://arxiv.org/abs/0906.2718&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/0906.2718/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>quant-ph</category></item><item><title>A formal proof of the Born rule from decision-theoretic assumptions — mentioned by lisper</title><link>https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20929305</link><guid isPermaLink="false">urn:hackerpapers:mention:0906.2718:20929305</guid><pubDate>Tue, 10 Sep 2019 15:32:08 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p&gt;Here&amp;#x27;s a blog post I wrote about this recently: http://blog.rongarret.info/2019/07/the-trouble-with-many-wor... The TL;DR is that the critics are correct. Deriving the Born rule begs the question because it makes an unjustified assumption (branching indifference) and also introduces an &amp;quot;invisible pink unicorn&amp;quot;, i.e. a concept that, according to the theory, has physical significance but cannot be measured. In the case of MWI that concept is branch weights. [UPDATE] The critique I wrote is based on Wallace (https://arxiv.org/abs/0906.2718). Carroll&amp;#x27;s argument appears to be somewhat different.…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hackerpaper.kaipfister.de/p/0906.2718/"&gt;Paper and discussion history&lt;/a&gt;. A mention is not an endorsement.&lt;/p&gt;</description><category>quant-ph</category></item></channel></rss>
